Luci Liu: I hate this bitch for one reason and one reason only – she never talks about being Asian or her Asian heritage. She’s so ingrained into the white Hollywood and too busy acting “white”, she won’t even mention anything about her Chinese upbringing, her struggles in getting into Hollywood as a full Chinese American. Is she ashamed of being Asian? Is she embarrassed? She can do a lot by speaking out and saying something about this. But she’s too busy fucking white Hollywood guys. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but you can at least share the struggles of Asian American women in cinema since there are so very few who actually make it. Look at how often Halle Berry mentions black actresses and their struggles. And I’m tired of white people thinking she’s so beautiful. She’s not! Goodness, white people obviously haven’t seen some of the Japanese and Korean actresses in Japan and Korea. This bitch is not hot! Uhh…good actress though, I’ll give her that.
Bai Ling: What a complete whore. I don’t know if she IS a whore, per se, but every time I see her on TV, she acts like a whore. She’s just always about sex and sensuality. Give me a break. Can she please at least try to break out of that old stereotype that Asian women are exotic and sexually crazy and freaky in bed. Stupid bitch. She even has the broken English while talking about sex and what’s sexy and sensual. Horrible actress too! She probably slept her way to the “top”. She’s been in mostly B-movies in the U.S. and in most of them, she just plays the sexy exotic Asian dragonlayd or tigress. She’s dated many non-Asian men in Hollywood, including Chris Isaak. She’s completely turned her back on Asian men it seems. She often talks about the oppressive society of women’s sexuality back in China and how being in America, she’s so liberated and sexually free now. This could mean she was a complete whore back in China. Anyway, she’s a horrible representation of the positive Asian American women role models in America. She only reinforces the exotic Asian sex goddess stereotype that some white guys just love. Plus, she not even hot.
Sandra Oh: Not exactly a whore, per se, but I’m mainly sick of her because I’m sick of white people saying how beautiful she is. She’s not pretty at all. Did I say at all? Trust me. Go look at some of the popular Korean actresses and singers and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I do think she’s a good actress though. She’s currently in ‘Grey’s Anatomy’ and was in the movie “Sideways”. She’s pretty fugly if you ask me. I’m sorry but my only memory of her in that movie was when she was getting pounded by that guy from “Wings”. Anyways, she was married to some white screenwriter and got divorced right after the movie came out. I wonder if she’ll start dating an Asian guy. Probably not. But then again, us SAMs don’t need chicks like this – we got each other and that’s all that matters. Go SAM!
August 28th, 2006 at 10:57 pm
Dude, breathe before that vein in your head pops.
I can understand your frustration, and to most of the points I agree except for a couple.
Lucy Lui is not a great actress, she probably has slept her way to the top. Come on, she started in Alley McBeal, and the only reason people watched her was because shes dressed in a full dominatrix leather outfit. Other than those oversexed roles in tv and movies she has done much in what I consider creditable acting.
As for Sandra Oh, I gotta stand up for my Canadian girl, besides the fact shes not the prettiest Asian on tv should tell you something. Like she didn’t sleep herself to the top, shes been in tons of low-budget flicks. She didn’t sell out in anyone of them playing the temptress or whore. So shes westernized, and whitewashed — unfortunately so are so many SAF’s.
At least she doesn’t perpetuate the stereotype the other two “actresses” wholeheartly accept.
As for white males they can’t tell shit between a hot SAF and an ugly one. As wrong as the next line is going to sound hear me out. Maybe all the ugly SAF’s should date white guys and leave the hot ones for us. Lets be honest you SAM’s are not going to date the ugly SAF’s so why not. Everyone needs to have someone.
August 28th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
Actually Lucy played another similar type of dominatrix role in Mel Gibson’s “Payback”. And yeah, she was good in “Kill Bill”. And I’ll admit, she does play strong roles – characters that don’t take shit. But I was talking more about her image rather than her acting chops or roles in movies.
And, you are right about Sandra Oh. She didn’t have to pose for Playboy or anything. And she is a good actress. But don’t forget this: Her ex-husband was the screenwriter for “Sideways”. I wonder how she got that role? And you have to admit, “Sideways” is what got her big. I really didn’t know who she was before this big hit movie came out. So did she really make it solely on her acting chops? Well, not really. She got the role because of her husband. But was she any good in the movie? Yes, in fact, she was really good.
And yeah! I agree! Let the white guys have the fugly SAFs! Haha. Damn straight!
August 29th, 2006 at 5:08 am
Oh yeah, forgot about her role in Kill Bill, okay for that particular film I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt — she did also have to speak japanese too, so it was out of character for her.
Got a point there about sideways, I never saw the movie.
But she did a lot of indie stuff which was pretty good.
August 29th, 2006 at 12:45 am
Odd as this may sound, the SAF agenda and SAM agenda are two totally different vector paths, and they don’t correlate. We as SAMs have our own issues that we need to deal with, and we cannot rely on SAFs in the media to help us out. SAFs are also trying to be accepted in N. America, and they do it by playing up their feminine characteristics. They WANT to be seen as sex objects and they feel good when they get the attention of the white and black boys. They LOVE it. Unfortunately, the more attention they get, the less putang we get, so we have to represent ourselves with our own SAM role models in the media. We’ve got some work to do.
Personally, I like Sandra Oh’s strong and feisty characters. Don’t know much about Bai Ling, but it seems she is bilingual. I actually haven’t seen Charlie’s or Kill Bill, so I haven’t seen Lucy in action.
August 30th, 2006 at 6:21 am
“Why do Americans only like ugly Asian women?” is something I have been asked many times in China. Lucy Liu is the main subject of this, followed by exports Gong Li and Zhang Ziyi. No one’s heard of Bai or Oh here, which is just as well. (Gong Li is “pretty but looks like a peasant” – but I quite like the peasant Chinese look for women; Zhang Ziyi is just WTF, there must be a lot of pedophiles out there to go for the pouty 11-year-old thing.)
Bailing: are those ugly tiger tattoos for real? Can you people they shot her humping a Guzheng? Classy she ain’t. 40-year-old face on a prepubescent body, very martial arts doing midwest trailer trash with Asian fetish. Yuk.
I like Oh a lot. It’s refreshing (and sadly rare) to see an average looking woman, especially Asian woman, in mainstream entertainment. I appreciate Karen Mok for the same reason, although the HK entertainment industry keeps trying to persuade us she’s hot – I’ve met her, she’s nice and average. Same goes for Michelle Yeoh.
Maggie Cheung: now there’s a broad. A lot of the 30-something HK actresses are both talented and beautiful, but too talented to whore for Hollywood. Zhou Xun is beautiful but an awful, awful actress (but still better than Zhang Ziyi!); Shu Qi is a gorgeous AND good actor, but for whatever reason (porn star origins? you go girl!), she gets undercast.
August 30th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
Oh wow, Gong Li is I think beautiful. And yes, Maggie Cheung is so beautiful as well.
August 31st, 2006 at 12:11 am
Gong Li is beautiful when she wants to be, check out Memoirs of a Geisha. As for Maggie Cheung, shes an amazing subtle seductress in a lot of Wong Kar Wai’s movies, which for the record isn’t whoring just great acting.
August 31st, 2006 at 12:12 am
I just saw the Bai Ling pictures above just now, one thing about her is her face — she always looks like a guy or transvestite
August 31st, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Karen Mok and Zhang Ziyi are cuties and good actresses, so don’t diss them. Shu Qi, on the other hand, is not a particularly good actress and without makeup is just not that attractive. Plus, she has been pretty ruthless about sleeping her way to the middle.
September 2nd, 2006 at 11:44 am
Right on I don’t get what the deal is with Lucy Liu or Bai Ling or Sandra Oh, good actresses perhaps, but sexy? There are Hong Kong, Japanese and Korean actresses that are a thousand times hotter and I am not kidding. Imagine when they learn some english and ship over to meet with rich jewish Hollywood execs? it’s already happening. Asian women are a hot item everywhere, there’s no slowing down from the look of it. They are accepted, but let’s be clear not as equals, but as complementary sidekicks to alpha media stars. They make others look good. They make white guys in our media look more appealing and desirable on tv or wherever they’re found. And in return, these girls enjoy their roles. It’s quite fascinationing how subservient women are.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
You say you are Asian and good for you. The way you slam these two actresses doesn’t show much support for your kinsmen. You hate them and they are “whores” according to your great wisdom. Perhaps it’s because they wouldn’t bang a complainer like you? That fact is, they are trying to break into Hollywood, an industry that is swamped with thousands of people trying to get in. SAG cards are mounting extremely high vs. roles actually offered. Cut them some slack. Despite the fact that Lucy Liu or Bai Ling want to break away, snag roles in Hollywood and perhaps suck off some Jewish cock to get there, what’s that to you?!?! One thing I will give you, Asian women ARE underated, unappriciated, and unnoticed in Hollywood. As a white male, I’d rather see some pretty Asian ladys vs. black chicks any day.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:32 am
I am English, but I have to agree. I live in Thailand, and find that white guys generally choose women who are pretty ugly. In American movies, you see guys getting lucky by – having a stripper pole dancing in his bedroom?
Generally, in Thailand, the better looking girls either totally despise white guys, totally ignore them, or they’re just out to use them for their money.
Wow, I’m racist. Trexter’s comment makes me laugh – “As a white male, I’d rather see some pretty Asian ladys vs. black chicks any day.” What a moron. I’d rather see ‘pretty ladies’. It doesn’t matter if they’re black or Asian. Generally, Asian women are uglier than Western women – though I think they also have the potential to be incredibly beautiful. For most people, however, whatever they are not accustomed to seeing is exotic.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I agree in that a pretty lady is a pretty lady, no matter what color she is. It all comes down to preference, really.
I think a lot of white guys go to Asia with vision impairment. To them, all Asians look alike, so they pick the first girl who is interested in them. If the guy is fugly, chances are he’ll attract someone similar. He’s overcome with joy and confidence, and gets married. After a few years he realizes that there are many girls who are way hotter than his wife, but by then he has 3 kids and it’s too late.
August 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
As for American Hollywood, it will take awhile for them to develop their eye to truly see a hot Asian woman. Until then, we’ll have to deal with ladies like Tila Tequila. SOOOOO not pretty.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I’m a white guy with a Korean wife. She’s not the most beautiful Korean woman I’ve ever met, but that’s not why I love her. She’s smart, capable, honest, hilarious, and open-minded–traits that I found were hard to come by in any person. Perhaps if the SAM out there could stop thinking about how they “deserve” hot sexy SAF (or that all SAF should date SAM only) and started realizing that people are more than their looks they’d stop being SAM and start being people who loved the person they were with.
Funny enough, my wife didn’t like dating Korean men. Why? Because they wanted to control her. I don’t control her, I support her and try to work with her to make our lives better. That’s why she’s married to me and not some Asian guy. It has nothing to do with penis size, looks, or simply my being a white dude and has everything to do with my treating her as an equal and not some baby incubator that cooks and cleans as a bonus.
Bust out of your superficial BS and you’ll find your life will be much fuller and more fulfilling.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I have to agree with ya, MantisBotoX. In the end, you should stick with a girl that is well-balanced who you like as a person. A lot of SAMs get too caught up with looks, and they miss out on the girls with real character because they don’t give them a chance. They just want it all, and are too idealistic.